Lili, jak bym miał się czepić szczegółów - acz zauważ, iż się nie czepiam - to bym musiał zauważyć, że gacie na XII-XIII w. to nie są późne gacie
Późne to od XIVw. Bitwa pod Crecy tak mniej więcej
Gard, Lilce chodzi chyba o coś innego. Jawor to miał takie coś jakby pielucha z trokami wiązanymi po bokach jak pamiętam, a ona pisze o bezszwowej pieluszce
I coś takiego wydaje się być historyczne bo chociażby w bizancjum, w interesującym nas okresie noszono takie właśnie "stringi na Thorgala". Mówimy cały czas o męskich of korz.
Z drugiej strony te ocieplane z Islandii czy innej Grenlandii chyba miały właśnie krój bokserek jeśli mnie pamięć nie myli.
Ogólnie to:
"We know little about underpants used during the Norse era. No surviving examples are known to exist. It is believed that they followed the same patterns as trousers but were typically knee length. Like trousers, some may have been simple, and some may have been complicated in the crotch area, again for freedom of motion. Like trousers, they had no fly. A drawstring at the waist or belt held the underpants up, and they may have had drawstrings at the knees. When available, they were made of linen for comfort, but wool was used as well.
In chapter 16 of Fljótsdæla saga, the saga author mentions that at the time of the events in the saga (10th century), men did not wear underpants. Yet, just two chapters later, Gunnar Þiðrandabani is described leaving his tent at night to relieve himself wearing nothing but tunic and underpants. (At that moment, his pursuers spotted him, and Gunnar spent the rest of the night and the following day dressed so while eluding his pursuers across the cold Icelandic landscape.)
Gísla saga Súrssonar (ch.16) says that Gísli walked one night to the neighboring farm at Sæból dressed in shirt and linen underdrawers, with a cloak over his back. Gísli's plan was to enter the sleeping longhouse at night to kill his brother-in-law Þorgrímr. Although not explicitly stated, the lack of trousers would make it difficult for the people of Sæból to recognize the intruder by touch in the dark longhouse.
These two episodes (and many others) suggest that linen underwear was worn to bed.
It's been suggested that very poor men did not use underclothing and thus may have slept naked. In chapter 18 of Ljósvetninga saga, Þorbjörn rindill, a poor man from the East Fjords, was hired by Guðmundr inn ríki (the powerful) to serve as a spy at the home of Þorkell hákr (bully). On the night of the attack, Þorbjörn heard the dog barking and men riding up to the house. He sprang from his bed and ran outside naked, with his clothes in his hand and got dressed outside. The episode suggests he slept naked. "
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Jeśli chodzi o gacie to wiemy tylko, że bywały choć często chodzono bez. My uznaliśmy, że chodzenie bez jest ultraśne ale do czasu jak Cie nie złapie fotograf, nie zobaczy dziecko lub zwyczajnie nie zacznie Ci wystawać faja podczas siedzenia przy ognisku
dlatego mają być i to dla wszystkich facetów.
A osobiście celował będę w coś takiego - krój jak spodnie, wielkość jak boksery. Choć sam krój wydaje się być rzeczą bardzo umowną z powodu braku
jakichkolwiek znalezisk. Np ten poniżej bazuje na znalezisku z Thorsbjerg dlatego jest na pasek. Ale nie ma co się spinać na razie fakt, ich posiadania jest plusem. Jak ruch odtwórczy wyrobi sobie jakieś konkretny kanon w tym temacie to najwyżej się zrobi nowe
Edit:
Znalazłem chyba namiary na te Grenlandzkie Bryczesy:
http://www.vikingsonline.org.uk/resources/authenticity/basickit/basickit6.html#manu-breeches
